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		<title>By: Alexandra Pope</title>
		<link>http://menstruationresearch.org/2009/11/09/are-we-addicted-to-the-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandra Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really like what you&#039;re saying Holly. It&#039;s so important to support women in trusting their own experience. Too often when women complain of side effects their experience is dismissed, denied or diminished. And because our understanding of contraception is so narrow - variations on the theme of hormonal contra - women hesitate to come off the Pill because they don;t know what else to do. It&#039;s great you offer a place for women to share their experience and a chance to think through alternatives. I&#039;d recommend (naturally!) my coauthored book on the pill The Pill: are you sure it&#039;s for you? (Allen and Unwin 2008) to help women do just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really like what you&#8217;re saying Holly. It&#8217;s so important to support women in trusting their own experience. Too often when women complain of side effects their experience is dismissed, denied or diminished. And because our understanding of contraception is so narrow &#8211; variations on the theme of hormonal contra &#8211; women hesitate to come off the Pill because they don;t know what else to do. It&#8217;s great you offer a place for women to share their experience and a chance to think through alternatives. I&#8217;d recommend (naturally!) my coauthored book on the pill The Pill: are you sure it&#8217;s for you? (Allen and Unwin 2008) to help women do just that.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Laura, I would be very grateful if you could pass along that research. My email is under my profile on the blog. I look forward to hearing from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Laura, I would be very grateful if you could pass along that research. My email is under my profile on the blog. I look forward to hearing from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Wershler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Wershler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly, brava to you for having the time, interest and inclination to blog about the Pill, it&#039;s side effects, your research and your experiences. As a veterean sexual and reproductive rights advocate, with over 20 years investment in volunteering and working with Planned Parenthood affiliated organizations, I am also an avid advocate for holistic reproductive health care. I am constantly trying to challenge my sexual health colleagues to rethink our community&#039;s over-reliance on hormonal birth control, and to think critically about the (to quote Barbara Seamon) &quot;diplomatic immunity&quot; we provide to these drugs. It&#039;s a hard slog. You are providing an invaluable service in supporting other young women&#039;s knowledge and awareness about the potential and real side effects of these medications and by acknowledging the validity of their own concerns about taking these drugs.  

My position is that young women seeking to effectively and confidently use hon-hormonal methods of birth control, should be supported by their physicians and sexual health care providers. Yet, they come up against docs who try to overcome their objections to the Pill at every turn. One young woman I talked with told me that after much frustration she finally answered the doc who asked about her reasons for not wanting to use hormonal birth control was: &quot;My reasons are none of your business.&quot; It&#039;s not a bad answer if you want to avoid being &quot;sold&quot; on pharamceutical contraceptives. 

As for evidence about side effects or concerns over long term use of birth control, the research is mounting. I&#039;ll be sure to forward some of the research I&#039;ve collected to Holly so she can add it to her blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly, brava to you for having the time, interest and inclination to blog about the Pill, it&#8217;s side effects, your research and your experiences. As a veterean sexual and reproductive rights advocate, with over 20 years investment in volunteering and working with Planned Parenthood affiliated organizations, I am also an avid advocate for holistic reproductive health care. I am constantly trying to challenge my sexual health colleagues to rethink our community&#8217;s over-reliance on hormonal birth control, and to think critically about the (to quote Barbara Seamon) &#8220;diplomatic immunity&#8221; we provide to these drugs. It&#8217;s a hard slog. You are providing an invaluable service in supporting other young women&#8217;s knowledge and awareness about the potential and real side effects of these medications and by acknowledging the validity of their own concerns about taking these drugs.  </p>
<p>My position is that young women seeking to effectively and confidently use hon-hormonal methods of birth control, should be supported by their physicians and sexual health care providers. Yet, they come up against docs who try to overcome their objections to the Pill at every turn. One young woman I talked with told me that after much frustration she finally answered the doc who asked about her reasons for not wanting to use hormonal birth control was: &#8220;My reasons are none of your business.&#8221; It&#8217;s not a bad answer if you want to avoid being &#8220;sold&#8221; on pharamceutical contraceptives. </p>
<p>As for evidence about side effects or concerns over long term use of birth control, the research is mounting. I&#8217;ll be sure to forward some of the research I&#8217;ve collected to Holly so she can add it to her blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://menstruationresearch.org/2009/11/09/are-we-addicted-to-the-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now now, I&#039;m not attacking you. I &#039;disagree&#039; with you. We are having a debate, there was nothing personal in my arguments. In fact, within the definition of &#039;attack&#039; it was you who made the first move, therefore I am merely defending my blog - a blog you called &#039;fanciful&#039;, &#039;unimpressive&#039;,&#039;outlandish&#039;,&#039;extreme&#039;, &#039;inaccurate&#039; and &#039;faulty&#039; - a blog I have put much time and thought into. I don&#039;t take kindly to being called irrational, no. Irrational is what many women are called by their GPs when they find the pill makes them depressed, anxious, panicky, suicidal. So who is &#039;attacking&#039;? And who is crying &#039;attacker!&#039; as another tactic in undermining my stance?  

There would be nothing wrong with you being a man, I wouldn&#039;t assume that to be an insult - only I find your stance perplexing in its intensity, considering that I am doing no harm, and may, I hope, be helping some women, and I am wondering what your mysterious motivations might be. Your lack of sensitivity to my own experience, and those of the women who have commented here, intrigues me. I think I, and these women, are &#039;rational&#039; enough to, at least retrospectively, discern between our natural responses and our unnatural pill-imbued responses. 

Over the years how many drugs can you think of that have been released and ended up being withdrawn because of side effects? The pill itself was released and then reevaluated at the end of it&#039;s first decade because the high dose of estrogen was causing blood clots, strokes and heart attacks.

I am not contradicting myself, I said there was very little research, which is correct, and I happen to have read most of this research and spoken with the researchers. The research happens to back up the stories of the women I have spoken to, as do the plain and simple facts - for some, possibly many, women shutting down their natural cycles might at some point provoke a negative impact. 

I am not &#039;insecure&#039; about my writing at all. I&#039;m certainly not anonymous, for starters. And I would love for you to send me over the research you seem to know so much about. My blog has my email on it. I would also wonder, for the third time now, what exactly is your particular area of expertise and your interest in these matters? Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now now, I&#8217;m not attacking you. I &#8216;disagree&#8217; with you. We are having a debate, there was nothing personal in my arguments. In fact, within the definition of &#8216;attack&#8217; it was you who made the first move, therefore I am merely defending my blog &#8211; a blog you called &#8216;fanciful&#8217;, &#8216;unimpressive&#8217;,'outlandish&#8217;,'extreme&#8217;, &#8216;inaccurate&#8217; and &#8216;faulty&#8217; &#8211; a blog I have put much time and thought into. I don&#8217;t take kindly to being called irrational, no. Irrational is what many women are called by their GPs when they find the pill makes them depressed, anxious, panicky, suicidal. So who is &#8216;attacking&#8217;? And who is crying &#8216;attacker!&#8217; as another tactic in undermining my stance?  </p>
<p>There would be nothing wrong with you being a man, I wouldn&#8217;t assume that to be an insult &#8211; only I find your stance perplexing in its intensity, considering that I am doing no harm, and may, I hope, be helping some women, and I am wondering what your mysterious motivations might be. Your lack of sensitivity to my own experience, and those of the women who have commented here, intrigues me. I think I, and these women, are &#8216;rational&#8217; enough to, at least retrospectively, discern between our natural responses and our unnatural pill-imbued responses. </p>
<p>Over the years how many drugs can you think of that have been released and ended up being withdrawn because of side effects? The pill itself was released and then reevaluated at the end of it&#8217;s first decade because the high dose of estrogen was causing blood clots, strokes and heart attacks.</p>
<p>I am not contradicting myself, I said there was very little research, which is correct, and I happen to have read most of this research and spoken with the researchers. The research happens to back up the stories of the women I have spoken to, as do the plain and simple facts &#8211; for some, possibly many, women shutting down their natural cycles might at some point provoke a negative impact. </p>
<p>I am not &#8216;insecure&#8217; about my writing at all. I&#8217;m certainly not anonymous, for starters. And I would love for you to send me over the research you seem to know so much about. My blog has my email on it. I would also wonder, for the third time now, what exactly is your particular area of expertise and your interest in these matters? Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: MsLaynie</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsLaynie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re actually attacking me because I disagree with you? Now you admit that there&#039;sa lot of research available. You now say you&#039;ve read lots of research, which before you said wasn&#039;t available. Do you realize that you&#039;re now contradicting everything that you&#039;ve said before?

I haven&#039;t once called you hysterical, or anyone else. Yet you feel the need to put words in my mouth- are you that insecure about what you&#039;re writing? 

Fine. Call me a man. It won&#039;t make your premise any more realistic, nor will it help your reading comprehension. I think we&#039;re finished here, since you don&#039;t seem to understand how to have a rational conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re actually attacking me because I disagree with you? Now you admit that there&#8217;sa lot of research available. You now say you&#8217;ve read lots of research, which before you said wasn&#8217;t available. Do you realize that you&#8217;re now contradicting everything that you&#8217;ve said before?</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t once called you hysterical, or anyone else. Yet you feel the need to put words in my mouth- are you that insecure about what you&#8217;re writing? </p>
<p>Fine. Call me a man. It won&#8217;t make your premise any more realistic, nor will it help your reading comprehension. I think we&#8217;re finished here, since you don&#8217;t seem to understand how to have a rational conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://menstruationresearch.org/2009/11/09/are-we-addicted-to-the-pill/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read this &#039;readily available&#039; research? Research that I am assuming suggests the pill does not stop ovulation and has no impact on women&#039;s bodies? Research that I am assuming says the pill merely regulates women&#039;s cycles, rather than replacing them? 

The pill shuts down women&#039;s natural cycles. This is a scientific fact. And my discussion of the pill&#039;s potential effects stems from this fact and the implications of this fact. 

Back before the pill was released, it was thought that women would not submit to taking a medication each day when they were not sick. Now the pill is making women sick. I&#039;m not writing a blog that criticises a drug used by cancer patients, or even a drug that acts as a painkiller, I&#039;m writing about a drug that healthy young women take every day of their lives for years on end, which has an impact on their healthy bodies and can have some nasty side effects on their quality of life. They don&#039;t need to take the pill to be well - there are many just as effective alternative contraceptive methods that do not shut down a vital part of their biology. 

I am concerned with raising awareness that the pill can have side effects on mood and well being, so that women who do experience these problems do not spend months searching for answers as to why they feel that way and suffer. That&#039;s my main motivation. Have you ever read the acclaimed cultural analysis work The Beauty Myth? Is that &#039;rational&#039; or &#039;scientific&#039;? I&#039;d be interested to know if you think that to be just the &#039;fanciful&#039; ramblings of a hysterical woman, too. 

As far as research goes, I have indeed read the relevant research and spoken with researchers. A couple of months back I spoke to a research scientist about her very recently released data which showed almost half of the women studied experienced depression and anxiety when taking the pill. I spoke to another research scientist this summer who discovered a large number of women experiencing very low libido and energy levels when taking the pill. I spoke to another research scientist earlier this year who found similar findings as part of her extensive work with the Kinsey Institute.

As I said, I am being honest, and my blog is riddled with straightforward declarations of my motivations. You know my name, you know what I do, as do the readers of my blog. You&#039;re now raising questions I&#039;ve already answered as an undermining tactic.

So then: who are you? What are your motivations? You say &#039;I have no problem with women speaking out.&#039; You mention &#039;women who seem to be blaming basic human biology on their birth control pill.&#039; I have to say, Ms. Laynie, you kinda sorta write like a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read this &#8216;readily available&#8217; research? Research that I am assuming suggests the pill does not stop ovulation and has no impact on women&#8217;s bodies? Research that I am assuming says the pill merely regulates women&#8217;s cycles, rather than replacing them? </p>
<p>The pill shuts down women&#8217;s natural cycles. This is a scientific fact. And my discussion of the pill&#8217;s potential effects stems from this fact and the implications of this fact. </p>
<p>Back before the pill was released, it was thought that women would not submit to taking a medication each day when they were not sick. Now the pill is making women sick. I&#8217;m not writing a blog that criticises a drug used by cancer patients, or even a drug that acts as a painkiller, I&#8217;m writing about a drug that healthy young women take every day of their lives for years on end, which has an impact on their healthy bodies and can have some nasty side effects on their quality of life. They don&#8217;t need to take the pill to be well &#8211; there are many just as effective alternative contraceptive methods that do not shut down a vital part of their biology. </p>
<p>I am concerned with raising awareness that the pill can have side effects on mood and well being, so that women who do experience these problems do not spend months searching for answers as to why they feel that way and suffer. That&#8217;s my main motivation. Have you ever read the acclaimed cultural analysis work The Beauty Myth? Is that &#8216;rational&#8217; or &#8217;scientific&#8217;? I&#8217;d be interested to know if you think that to be just the &#8216;fanciful&#8217; ramblings of a hysterical woman, too. </p>
<p>As far as research goes, I have indeed read the relevant research and spoken with researchers. A couple of months back I spoke to a research scientist about her very recently released data which showed almost half of the women studied experienced depression and anxiety when taking the pill. I spoke to another research scientist this summer who discovered a large number of women experiencing very low libido and energy levels when taking the pill. I spoke to another research scientist earlier this year who found similar findings as part of her extensive work with the Kinsey Institute.</p>
<p>As I said, I am being honest, and my blog is riddled with straightforward declarations of my motivations. You know my name, you know what I do, as do the readers of my blog. You&#8217;re now raising questions I&#8217;ve already answered as an undermining tactic.</p>
<p>So then: who are you? What are your motivations? You say &#8216;I have no problem with women speaking out.&#8217; You mention &#8216;women who seem to be blaming basic human biology on their birth control pill.&#8217; I have to say, Ms. Laynie, you kinda sorta write like a man.</p>
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